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Ask HN: Why does P2P encrypted messaging still suck?

I chat with my teammates (who are ready to agree on a particular messenger)

So, far we've tried

1. Telegram - The problem here is that E2E encrypted messaging (secret chat) is not available on the desktop.

2. Tox - Works everywhere but qtox crashes randomly on Mac. Antox also doesn't work well on Android either. Utox crashes randomly on Linux. Qtox has no way to disable notification on Linux.

3. Whatsapp - You always need your phone android

4. Signal - Message syncs is very slow if you switch between desktop/phone often.

I've reported these issues to all these projects but it's been a long time and nothing resolved so far.

The situation is still pathetic. What do you recommend?

161 points xstartup 8 years ago 193 comments

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