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Comment by RobertRoberts

I actually loath debating topics that are both extremely controversial and I have no influence over. And if there is a claim I have influence over it, and I demonstrate how damaging and ineffective it is to push the _very specific_ changes recommended, it just turns into a head butting match no one wins.

But, how do we _know_ beyond all shadow of doubt "those days are over"? * sigh * (not sure I should bother asking this, but I know I am not a predictor of the future)

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