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Comment by xdma

Subgraph does lots of things Qubes doesn't, and this will only increase over time. For example: an experimental Subgraph OS feature[1] is to, by mandatory sandbox policy, prevent a specific application from connecting to anything except TLS endpoints, or specific TLS endpoints while adding certificate pinning outside of an application and performing extra-app validation. Could be useful over Tor or public wi-fi, right? Qubes is not going to build this, yet I am running a prototype of it on my SGOS dev laptop.

You can compare the sandbox technologies: hypervisor vs. Linux kernel containment facilities, but we are doing a lot more than that. There's no doubt that there will be many that want to run Subgraph or parts of Subgraph inside of Qubes for this reason, though we believe Qubes needs strong exploit mitigation throughout, in every VM, and I think wouldn't recommend it until that is the default.

1. Screenshots of Oz' coming TLS Guard, which proxies the TLS handshake to ensure correct TLS session & enforce other policy req's:

https://twitter.com/attractr/status/783013051335319553

https://twitter.com/attractr/status/783521883715203073

https://twitter.com/attractr/status/786235879111090176

etc

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parent xdma 10 years ago

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