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"move to a place that offers such a steep step up in quality of life."

Let's be sure we all agree on the meaning of the expected amount: 2'235euros.

- Average rent: 1'000€ (assuming shared apartment) - Average base insurance: 350€ - Average public transportation monthly pass: 60€ - Average internet access: 50€ - Average mobile phone access: 30€ - Average income tax: 17% (lower quantile, insurances and transportation deducted): 318€ - Intermediate total: 477€ - 1 restaurant per month with friends: 50€ - 1 movie ticket per month: 15€ - 1 coffee, 2 times per week: 28€ - 1 drink with friends, 1 time weekly: 40€

- Total, remaining: 294€

- Daily wage: 9.40€

Just to give you an idea of what it means living with 9.40€/day in Switzerland:

- Train from Geneva to Lausanne (30 minutes): 35€

- Coffee at Starbucks: 7€

- Big mac meal at McDonald's: 10.50€

- A coffee: 3.50€

Basically speaking, this wage would grant you the real minimal amount required to pay your rent, your most basic insurance, income taxes, have a minimal social life with people (coffees) and get some very basic food at home (rice, milk, bread, etc.).

Forget the idea of buying anything else such as a kitchen appliance, furniture, clothing, books, side-education, holidays, etc.

So yes, it sounds like a very high amount to other countries ears but here, it's lower than the minimal wage. This is a wage to make let people actually "think" by removing the struggle of finding food and shelter. But it is in absolute no way enough to satisfy a normal and well-being person's needs. Finding a job remains necessary.

parent nokya 10 years ago

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