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Comment by kentonv

Sounds like this could be implemented on Linux as a library on top of seccomp.

I'm not impressed by De Raadt's objection to seccomp. BPF programs may technically be turing-complete, but most of the things pledge() does can be implemented by a pretty simple seccomp filter that's just a flat list of conditionals implementing a whitelist or blacklist.

Meanwhile De Raadt points out, correctly, that voluntary security mechanisms will be ignored by most developers... but pledge() appears to be voluntary.

Seccomp-bpf is often used by sandboxes like Chrome or Sandstorm.io (of which I am lead developer), where it is not voluntary for the code that ends up being run inside the sandbox. But sandbox developers are likely to want seccomp's customizeability over pledge's ease-of-use.

So while it's nice that that pledge() is so easy to use, it strikes me that it's targeting the wrong audience with that design.

parent kentonv 11 years ago

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